#musicbrainz

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      • g0llum
        isnt it still?
      • yllona
        last time i checked (some days ago) no.
      • got URL?
      • g0llum notices yllona does not like the wiki search / or hasn't found it yet ;)
      • g0llum
        if you know the names, you can find it with google "i feel lucky"
      • yllona
        found it but i may not have priviledges to see most recent (or something)
      • g0llum
        oh, the user/pw combination is written in the dialogue
      • thats is a antispam measure against spammer bots
      • yllona
        no haven't seen this yet ... thank you!
      • g0llum
        http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ObjectModel <-- the status notice "needs updating" is still there
      • donredman said today that he has exams currently, maybe that won't happen in 2005
      • yllona
        got it...
      • i'm willing to helpp. remind me to follow up after the holidays
      • g0llum
        so, in the new schema. you would have a composition object which is the same for all recordings of a song.
      • and every song can have an own representation "what's on the cover" and still be an instance of the composition... that's the idea basically
      • same thing for the albums, and artists
      • g0llum notices that its getting late in GMT+1
      • yllona
        yes. very useful. ex: as it is now, the composer credits for gershwin's "summertime" will be listed 2000+ times on his artist page
      • g0llum
        it's very brave how you keep adding the AR's :)
      • Muz wonders if the AR's for Avantasia are done, and if it's worth doing...
      • yllona is an obssessive jazz gek
      • yllona
        *geek
      • g0llum
        seen the new version of the album editor i've been working on yet?
      • yllona
        nope
      • g0llum
      • try the "add new relationship" link ;)
      • this is only a mockup, the functions will be hidden by default such that we don't scare away casual users
      • yllona
        thank you!
      • g0llum
        that's the department i'm geeky in, i guess :P
      • yllona
        g0llum: schweet! (nicely done)
      • g0llum
        thanks
      • Muz
        Whoa, that's swanky :D
      • g0llum trembles when he thinks about browser support issues
      • yllona
        let me look again, after the holiday craziness. are you on a short deadline?
      • g0llum
        not really.
      • yllona
        'k good
      • g0llum
        i'm off for a 3 weeks thailand trip next sundy
      • g0llum needs some beach time
      • yllona
        would love to test against duke ellington and/or count basie orchestras
      • or jazz at lincoln center orchestra
      • yllona lives on the beach :P
      • g0llum
        after that, i'll move (most stuff is already packed now here) and then start a new job
      • g0llum aims for a 2006-02/03 release date :}
      • yllona
        okay
      • g0llum
        shit. this stuff eats a lot of time
      • yllona
        pls don't let me forget. and i'll add to my calendar also
      • g0llum
        if one works fulltime besides MB ;)
      • yllona
        real life gets more complicated as you get oder
      • *older
      • g0llum
        i guess being young was a couple of years ago
      • yllona
        funny how that happens :)
      • g0llum is a vintage 1977 model
      • g0llum
        hehe
      • nikki_ giggles
      • ok, i really need to be going. cu
      • Shepard
        btw: when adding a track to a normal album you can also not define the track time (not only on NAT albums)
      • cu g0llum
      • g0llum
        Shepard: looks like a lukz-quick fix to me ;)
      • add it to trac
      • g0llum has quit
      • yllona returns to jazz geekry/trivia
      • mrneil has quit
      • teleGUISE
        Can Link Moderators adjust ASIN (album/Amazon) cross reference links done or -not- done by the bot?
      • guess I should address that to someone who cares/knows ;) ruaok: g0llum: fuchs: ??
      • Shepard
        cross reference?
      • fuchs
        teleGUISE: no
      • i'm 99% sure ;)
      • teleGUISE
        hmm... was thinking as much that it would be in some weird ru format not generally accessible ;) .. do you know what the status of revising the bot is? soon/on hold/never?
      • fuchs
        and in english? :)
      • teleGUISE
        ru mentioned he wanted/was/is reworking (iirc) the amazon bot is that work in progress, work to be done, or work to be done one of these years
      • fuchs
        yes, probably one of those ;o)
      • teleGUISE
        gee.. your just a wealth of useful information :o
      • fuchs
        you are welcome :)
      • teleGUISE
        anyway.. how you been? haven't seen much of you lately.. been working/coding/sleeping or all the above ;)?
      • fuchs
        i think it's in "it's an idea, but it's neither important nor interesting enough to be implemented and more important to implement) ;)
      • -)+"
      • always been here, but a bit busy these days
      • teleGUISE
        and in german?? since I'm not sure I get the english ;) (so your saying the rework is a backburner issue, since its importance is negligable?)
      • Shepard
        ich bin wieder hier, in meinem revier, war nie wirklich weg, hab mich nur versteckt *sing* :)
      • fuchs
        teleGUISE: in german: es hat einfach noch keiner bock, gehabt, sowas langweiliges zu implementieren
      • -,
      • Shepard
        lol
      • teleGUISE
        Ah.. makes sense now... ;) (though which is correct german)
      • nikki_
        what are you singing, Shepard?
      • teleGUISE
        OK.. Shepard wasn't answering me at all...".I am again here, in my district, was never really away, have me * sing only hidden *"
      • fuchs
        nikki_: nothing anyone should care about ;)
      • Shepard
      • fuchs
        some arrogant, incompetitive, wannabe singer ;)
      • nikki_ laughs
      • Shepard
        fuchs: it just fitted to <fuchs> always been here, but a bit busy these days
      • teleGUISE
        Shepard: cross reference meaning link reference to pull up amazon art and linking from album title
      • Shepard
        asshat :P
      • ah ok
      • nikki_ can't sing and is sure most people are better than her :P
      • fuchs
        Shepard: du mir ooch, alda!
      • Shepard
        ich komm dir gleich da rüber
      • fuchs
        nikki_: your ardvantage is, that you know it and don't try it nevertheless ;)
      • teleGUISE
        Shepard: since we might be able to embed asin links I was thinking we could then fix the non-matching/or inccorrect ones.. Did you verify my earlier comment about the (Hyphen) and it's color?
      • Shepard
        i don't see any coloured hyphen outside a link
      • fuchs
        why did i read "hymen"? omg!
      • nikki_
        bah! I can't seem to find the lyrics for this song :(
      • fuchs
        which one?
      • teleGUISE
        So your saying the hyphen between is (default/black) each (field) seperation here? http://test.musicbrainz.org/album/d7929b28-5812...
      • nikki_
        ilona mitrecey - allô allô
      • teleGUISE: yes, they're black
      • teleGUISE
        Shepard... Label: Maverick (-) Catalog #: 9362-49460-2 (-) ASIN:B000B8QEZG , between parenthesis is same color as the text Label etc...
      • Shepard
        teleGUISE: yes, but maybe it is playing optical tricks on you
      • fuchs
        why do you add style to the release info? it makes it only harder to parse
      • Shepard
        and you need new glasses
      • teleGUISE
        just got some new ones.. so not that problem..
      • nikki_
        fuchs: agreed!
      • teleGUISE
        blah blah blah.. then your parser sucks ;)
      • nikki_
        teleGUISE: are you going to be writing the parser? :P
      • nikki_ still doesn't see the point in using bold and italics anyway
      • teleGUISE
        Yes...as soon as the parser is written, i'll fix the part that parses bold/italics/links etc...
      • if you can parse the word Label: & Catalog #: , you can parse it whethers its bold/italic/bolditalic/green/purple/hyperlinked or whatever
      • fuchs
        and links? to amazon.com? why not .de? co.uk? ;) i think it should be kept as it was, this doesn't work :)
      • nikki_
        plus mb doesn't get money for those links!
      • teleGUISE
        there exists other countries ;)
      • I thought it would if it was like an album art url forward?
      • nikki_
        not if it's a link from the annotation like that
      • teleGUISE
        why not include the referrer as part of the embed?
      • nikki_
        I didn't decide to link it
      • I think the link to madonna's page should probably be a relationship though
      • I can't be sure as they block opera, so I don't know what the content is ...
      • teleGUISE
        well thats a coder brain fart..
      • nikki_
        plus, it seems completely unrelated to the catalogue number, looking at the url
      • Muz
        I wonder, is there a "copy" function for albums
      • teleGUISE
        It's an annotation I can do whatever I want :)... seriously I was just playing with the links.... its on a test server remember
      • nikki_
        yes, I'm just saying
      • Muz
        Reason being so I can copy an existing one, and add bonus tracks to it, due to it being a release in Japan for example
      • nikki_
        no
      • Muz
        I guess it has to be done the long way then, fair do's
      • nikki_
        can you imagine how many people would try and copy albums because they don't like the current one enough?
      • freedb import?
      • why am I grumpy today? :/
      • fuchs
        you are a woman :)
      • Muz
        I don't know :( But don't worry, I had a really sour phase earlier
      • fuchs
        they have these special days, you know ;)
      • Muz cuddles Sen
      • Muz
        I almost snapped at him earlier too heh :P
      • teleGUISE
        Had Maverick updated/corrected their site.. We could just use the Label: link to go directly to the release.. but since luks added that.. I was just playing around and figured that catalog # does match the release it goes too... and would provide additional info for that exact -release-
      • I think AR's are worthless when it comes to the web front end.. its a bundled up mess
      • when there are multiple AR's that is... the order of preference still needs to be addressed.. as the important things regarding using html/web are buried and the stuff that you wouldnt link to is on top.. pretty backwards
      • nikki_
        I'm annoyed that I can't find those lyrics
      • ruaok returns
      • hi ruaok!
      • ruaok
        hi
      • teleGUISE: you asked about ASIN links.