#musicbrainz

you'll read your e-mails in case something changes

yes.

this trip will be email enabled.

I have the two pages newxt to eachother and the live server is grey and black text, while the dev is greenish rey and grey text

g0llum: no, current color of menu links is #997035

ruaok: what do i predial for US?

+1

do you want a screenshot to prove it? :)

uhm. no i get it

:)

and the top menu

why blac kand not the link colour uhm..

g0llum: how do you feel about having a small get togeher with my friends to have a few drinks on friday evening after you arrive?

paul sharpe really dug my place and my friends. :-)

luks: what is the current #colour for the top menu links on the live server??

#997035! :)

yay!

why black and not that?

aha

'cos its brownish and ugly?

:(

I like it alot

also you have redused the amount of blue in the righttable headlines on the mainpage http://musicbrainz.org/

compare http://dev-mb.djce.org.uk/

yes. i'm aware of that. artistic freedom

any suggestions on how to handle tone indication on this:

ew :p

also why does the blue and orange tables headlines now have borders around them+

I liked the airy feel of before

g0llum: the main menu is one pixel to small, the yellow background overlaps the bottom line of the menu

screenshot?

mompl

I'm sorry to complain but, I want to continue using mb without going 'arg' why did they change that

i'm not going to argue with you. but what could be more airy than a gradient from blue to white, and a almost non-exisiting lightgrey border? :)

why make a border?

g0llum: http://www.fuchsi.net/pics/screenshots/mbserver...

and i support mo's comment, the black looks ugly if you compare the old and new menus directly ;)

brb restart

g0llum: the thing in the screenshot happens with opera 8.02 and firefox 1.0.6 and it's worse with konqueror where the overlap is 2 pixels

the menu is a little buggy on IE :(

at least here on my IE 6.0.2900

try to click on 'Edit', wait for the new page and then move mouse cursor over the 'Browse' item

after that i can't access any submenu except 'About' and 'News' :(

wtf o_O http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3354567

so

so.

yeah, but someone will always try to fill in the end date.

yes

but not while setting to 'unckown' in the process

unknown

True... what was the point of that?

I don't know o_O

that moderation needed a note

Maybe they belive queen have transcended being a "group" and become something more?

:p

tronger and feanor are nuts : v

hint to self: press *shift* v

is bad

As far as i am concerned Queen ended when Freddie ended, but sadly the band don't agree with me.

press *crtl* not shift

PRAEst76: ding

Not to say Freddie *was* queen or anything, but he was an integral part of queen and I don't see how you can have Queen without him... just my opinion *sniff*

my oppinion tooo

what's the point of hiding the sidebar, btw? http://anonymous.otaku.jp/menu.png it still makes the top menu scroll off the screen at low res even if you hide it...

jeez!

wtf now?

ew. I'm sleepinf now

night folks

djce: on the test server, I have fewer mods than on the main server. is that just because the test server uses an older data dump?

yes

bwaha!

204 words!

I had to write at least 200...

heh

that's the exact minimal spirit

well, I had to write about why I took chemistry.

is there a guide for medleys?

my first attempt was 9 words.

there's a multiple songs in one track guide I thought

I know, but that only mentions named and not numbered songs in one unnamed track

numbered song medley?

sometimes a track is labelled like "5. Foo (medley) \n a. Bar \n b. Baz"

would it me "Foo (medley): Bar / Baz"

*be

or "Foo: a. Bar / b. Baz" or what?

got me. I hate tracks like that

there was on like that on the latest joshi juuni gakubou album, was annoying to tag

*one

how should i go about starting a style guide for it?

should I make a link to MedleyStyle from MusicBrainzGuideline and make a page?

Create MedleyStyleProposal somewhere, type in your thoughts, and send it to the mailing list

is generally what people do

mailing list = mb-style I assume

yes

although you could send it to mb-dev for fun I guess

dseomn: http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=7...

;)

ugh, that's not what I'd propose

is that a medley or just an odd track though?

dunno, got this via http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/TrackSections?highl...

there was someone thinking about it, but he didn't write down his thoughts ;)

the link to the ML points to a discussion in 2002, maybe you find some ideas there

ok, thanks

that track seems a bit different

at least to what I'm used to thinking of as medleys

it looks pretty normal to me

I guess when I see medleys it's usually preexisting songs by the same artist or other artists shortened and performed together as one track

yes

whereas that looks like new work just shoved together in one track and named funny

the concept is the same, the naming should be similar IMHO

either way I think the same style should be the same

what he said ;>

personally I'd prefer to just link in the tracks with the medley AR and don't mention it in the track name at all

well

in that example I doubt they'd do what I see often in medleys

which is stick the same song in multiple times

fuchs: there are many (that I know of) original songs in medleys

fuchs: plus it's hard finding the originals sometimes

also, in many celtic-ish albums, the songs are a mix of traditional tunes and original compositions

that's right, but not impossible, but it's better than creating a track title from some 20 tracks

most medleys (that I know of) aren't that long

some that i know are http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=3... f.e.

and track names are limited to 255 characters ;)

oh, that could be a problem

damn NULL, I want all 256!

could the limit be increased?

not impossible but prohibitively hard at times

aren't there regular tracks already hitting that limit?

yes

http://www.musicline.de/de/product/743214029428 <- that's the complete list of the example i've shown above. Just image listing all those titles in one track title

i've seen artists hit the limit

should I write the proposal ignoring the 255 limit and hope it gets increased soon?

and i've got a handful of tracks that hit the limit