#musicbrainz

ruaok: When an album is merged, can the old AlbumID be an "alias" to the new one?

It should be, but it is not right now.

That's on the list of things to fix...

Okay..

I've got about 30 albums that I need to retag for that reason.

:(

Do you know of a perl module that groks id3v2 tags?

Err. id3v2.4.0.

no.

Did I mention that I want to shoot the author of id3v2?

non-backward-compatible versions SUCK ASS.

No. Need a gun?

:-)

I dunno if I could hit .se from here

:-)

I'll mod up tagged, then. It seems to read the tags, but doesn't understand all of the fields.

its worse than that.

The internal structure of 2.4 is different from 2.3

it will require some code changes to handle that as well.

I'll buy you a plane ticket to .se?

PLEASE!

Hmm. Maybe I'll swig the id3v2 library for perl?

Ick, no.

The reference lib is chock full of bugs.

The pure perl code is more solid.

No, that's me browsing through the tunepimp code to see how it uses id3v2..

see libid3 dir.

or id3tag, yeah that's it

it uses underbit's id3 library.

With lots of patches so that it works.

I've submitted a number of patches to the author, but he hasn't accepted any of them or released a new version.

So I'm using my own copy. Grrr.

Hmm.

perl wrapping that lib might be useful.

That's what I'm thinking..

In the MBHttp class, how come the Progress method is empty? Was it something that was being worked on?

it was used when we ganked the code from freeamp, but we're not using it.

ok

is anyone else still having those random xp crashes when doing lookups/analyze?

but, it appears the crashes have not gone away entirely.

just a lot fewer.

i have xp, but it hasn't crashed so far

hmmm, even the latest client can bearly stay open 1-2 min before crashing... not nearly usable.

wow.

try installing a clean IE.

and completly uninstalling the tagger.

hmm, ok

ok, try this in the given order

1. uninstall the tagger

2. remove all tagger created dirs

3. remove the registry keys for the tagger (LOCAL MACHINE|CURRENT USER\Software\MusicBrainz)

4. Install a clean copy of IE

5. Install the latest Tagger

6. Report

:-)

but i must say the error seems to be unrelated to browsing (it happens if i browse or not) and also does not happen when i am exclusively browsing (without any tracks being analyzed)

but i'll try it

well, when does it crash?

after attempting to identify roughly 1-50 tracks

grrr.

i've watched the status line to see what file/action it appears to be doing at the time, and...

ok, that's not IE related.

it hasn't been the same any of the say 5 times i just tested

although it does appear to go through the same files each time in the same order

and crashes in different places??

yes

lovely.

and not related to the set of music you're analyzing?

usually the error pane is empty, but maybe 15% of the time it is filled with 10-15 error messeges with "Decoder Crashed"

ahh, that is a start.

those come quite quickly after one appears and then it crashes shortly after

ok, thats making it more clear now.

One crash is causing instability.

I don't have many bad files laying around.

unfortunately that doesn't happen every time, but it does seem at least slightly related

likely.

lemme reinstall and try something brb

can you stash 100 - 200 of the files on the net for me?

hold on

I doubt it will help.

Its likely more file related.

hey boyz.

it is my impression that mb totally rocks

correct me if I'm wrong.

I hope so.,

Missed ya at Etech!

:)

wish I'd gone.

so, what makes you say that?

'twas fine.

I was talking to the Mike L and Danbri when Bob Frankston butted into the conversation.

Mind you the creator of the spreadsheet butted into the conversation. :-)

I liked that moment...

very awesome.

lgonze: you seen http://test.musicbrainz.org/album/8f468f36-8c7e...

?

checking it out...

has that changed? what's new?

the main site doesn't have cover art.

the image is quite nice.

hmmmmmmmmmm very nice indeed.

helps the page lots.

where's the image come from? is that from amazon?

yep.

hey, and you have the "buy this" link.

very nice.

how do you do that?

its just a form submit link that posts a form to the amazon web pages.

normally we'd earn money for it, but we can't right now.

We don;t have the non-profit status yet and we'd be violating the CCCP charter if we 'earned' money.

do you get the amazon ID by doing a text lookup at amazon?

yes, but we do that offline.

we have a matching script that runs daily.

well, it's quite a cool thing.

:-)

there is a sad thing about it, though, which is that if there is any money involved then you increase your legal risk. never mind if the point of it all is to help convert p2p sharing to money for the rights holders.

some money has legal risks -- not all forms of income.

This amazon thing is totally legit and we make money from it. May not be much, but all helps.

it's all good. brings cash in for everybody.

getting anywhere near the music industry, which is crazed with lawyers, is freaky.

webjay is in beta 1.

thinking about how to make money eventually...

that is: http://webjay.org.

ohh. interesting.

are you going to be around in 1-2 hours?

I want to chat about that and FOAF music profiles and portable playlists.

L)

all good things, but I'll be over on the sofa by then. it's 10pm here.

ah, right.

hmmm. one sec.

ian mentioned that conversation. I was happy to hear it.

ian -- exellent.

I didn't know you two knew each other.

OK, I shirked my responsibilities and I can chat.

how do you know ian?

awesome. that's cool.