#musicbrainz

alrighty then... there's a trm tarball? neat, didn't know :)

oe mo... lemme fiddle around a bit...

s/oe/one/

ahh, righty then... never seen that one myself :)

so what do you use?

well, i try to get the latest version of tunepimp from cvs & build that... it comes with an example program named "tp_tagger"

has that been updated lately?

hmm, my libmusicbrainz is too old.

_thom_: not really... i play around with a modified version of the tagger myself, although there's not alot of improvements on it

although, if you're interested you can take a look at http://dom.exent.net/~canidae/tuxicbrainz/

i don't do mac though, so i have no idea if you can get it to work there :p

Knio-dinner is now known as Knio

anyone around? anyone know a command line (linux) program that'll show me id3 tags and supports id3v2.4? (utf-8 in these tags, everything I've tried pukes)

You've tried id3v2 ?

hmm

with a id3v2.4 lib it should do the right thing, IIRC

I have it, unless there are two different things

I've just woke up, I'm still being slow

:-)

that's a pain

well, what the id3v2 program can do depends on libid3v2

I want to check that all my foreign stuff has UTF-8 not UTF-8 converted to UTF-8 from latin1 marked as UTF-8

thus you need a 2.4 lib and it should work.

ok

definitely a job for hex. seriously.

I wouldn't trust the existing libs to do that right.

because I'm getting all sorts of shit.

except's wheeler's lib. but I haven't tried.

yup. case in point.

I might just use the perl thing I set and unset the UTF-8 flag with

or vi -b

(vim in binary mode)

meh, find . -type f -iname '*.mp3' -exec myscript {} \; is so much easier.

yes, of course.

but I never do stuff like that. I write the massive tools that do all that shit for normal people.

which means that I personally never need to twidle one bit on a thousand files. :-)

it's not my fault nobody likes my utf-8 :(

the script I use is 5 lines

I can't wait for 5-10 years from now, when everything is utf-8

by then there'll be some far niftier thing that nobody supports, of course.

arse

do you know what the artist frame thing is?

TPE2 ??

aha

sounds right

ya

oh, DUH.

people who think things should be marked as imports have a very... egocentric? somewordIdon'tknow? view of things...

Ugh, I guess there's no way to block edits from a person *real quick-like*?

Idiot alert, and he's not paying attention to mod notes... http://www.musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.h...

For the love of Goddess, someone stop that moron! He's hosing up caps as I type this. Intentionally.

Knio is now known as Knio-sleep

Bleh, just went through and cleaned up his entire mess. Not a single one of his edits was correct...

holy... crap...

how'd you notice?

I'm "subscribed" to Led Zeppelin. Today's daily mail noted 36 accepted mods for Zeppelin. Zeppelin's listings were already perfect, so I found that a bit odd... :-P

Damn, he's still doing it...

ahh

I fixed some

Using the "bonehead" mod note to keep track of what's fixed. Anything older than those notes is already done. ;-)

And I'm *really* hoping he gets an e-mail for each mod note... :-P

I hope that's a real email account

He's changing them, then tagging (can tell as he sends TRMs). If I catch them before he tags, he comes back and changes them again...

someone needs to invent a way of punching people in the face over the internet already.

Like he's doing right now with Moby.

See if I can play a cat-mouse game with him... :-D

good luck!

*sips coffee* What a great way to start the morning. Hehehehehe

and I thought the person who said "Whatever!" when I told them to read the style guidelines and the one who wanted to change 98 degrees' sortname to "Degrees, 98" were bad

I don't get it... if he's so bothered about the capitalisation that he's changing them all by hand, why doesn't he just get a real tag editor and use that, instead of fighting against musicbrainz

Some people have a very hard time... thinking.

some just can't think at all, it would seem.

oh, I just love people who add everything to non-album tracks.

You forgot the part in parentheses: oh, I just love (to vote "no" to) people who add everything to non-album tracks.

;-)

I thought that obvious.

...that /was/

Linkin Park sucks! <--- Stating the obvious

:-P

I hate voting on add tracks, nobody seems to have any idea what they're doing (nor how to write an entire sentence)

not in db! not found! not on cds listed!

not getting a yes vote!

yes.

ruaok: a quick quiz... i'm playing around in "write.cpp" and see the following: if you use "%sortname" it picks "data.artist" instead of "data.sortName" if "data.sortName" doesn't exist... if you use "%abc" it picks the first char of "data.Sortname" if "data.variousArtist" is "0", however, unlike "%sortname" it does not pick "data.artist" instead of "data.sortName" if "data.sortName" does not exist...

hmmm.

do i make sense? :)

I'd love a patch. :-)

hehe, i'm working on it :)

although, i need at least the evening, and probably tomorrows evening aswell... this stuff prolly is a bit above my head :p

i take it as "data.sortName" might not have any value, while "data.artist" will have data, then

yes

it should be rare for sortname to be blank, but it does happen

ok, then i'll add a check for that in "%abc" aswell

hmm, btw, i prolly should check this with you before i continue: as i've said earlier i want to be able to "force" variables to be lower or upper case... so i'm trying to implement two new variables; "%l" & "%u" which will cause the next variable to be upper/lower case (i've made 2 methods to change case)... good? bad? :)

not sure.

eg: "%l%sortname" where "%sortname" = "Beatles, The" would make it "beatles, the"

this shouldn't affect anyone not using "%l" or "%u", though

sounds reasonable

and they both only affect the next variable... eg. "%l%sortname/%album" would only make "%sortname" lowercase, while "%album" still would have correct capitalization

although, there's one more change i wish to do, which will affect some of the other variables... namingly "%abc2" & "%abc3"... as i've said before, i want the first char of "%sortname", but atm that's not possible... so instead of making "%sortname1", "%sortname2" & "%sortname3" (and maybe "%artist1"...) i thought maybe doing like i want to do with "%l" & "%u": "%<1-9>", or: "%3%sortname" would pick out the 3 first chars of "%sortname"

so instead of "%abc2" & "%abc3" you'd have to use "%2%abc" & "%3%abc"

hmm, actually the way i've done it so far will also force you to use "%1%abc" instead of "%abc"... i'm making "%abc" giving you either the entire sortname or the entire album name (if track is tagged as "various artists")

having VA album titles sorted mixed in with artist names is a bit messy

i like the way that iTunes thows them under Compilations (although that's a bad name)

and be sure to have %abc default to one char unless overridden by a previous %<1-9>, for compatibility/convenience

dupuy: problem then is that you can't ever really get more than 9 chars then, unless there's made yet another "variable"... how many programs is there using libtunepimp these days? i thought it was tp_tagger (which only i use) & picard (which is still in developement)... i do see your point though

dupuy: and mixing va-titles & artist names: the default in tp_tagger is something like "%abc/..." for non-various artists tracks & "Various Artists/%abc" for various artists tracks... won't be any changes how the music is sorted by the changes i have in minf :)

s/minf/mind/

i thought the old windows tagger uses % codes as well, but perhaps not quite the same as libtunepimp

it is -- in both cases the % codes are being applied by libtp.

old tagger and new are both built on top of libtp

i see...

well, i could ofcourse keep "%abc", "%abc2" & "%abc3" as they are, although first i want to see if i can get this stuff working :)