hi! i'm the debian maintainer of the musicbrainz lib and was asked to compile it dynamically against libexpat, which included in the musicbrainz sources & built unconditionally - what do the developers think about a configure switch?
mjflick
hmm
Rotty
imo, including externally distributed library source is bad practice...
mjflick
Though I have not submitted any code, I have reviewed the server code and agree that is bad practice.
Rotty
libmusicbrainz configure should check for libexpat and only fall back to the included source if it is not available...
icepick
Rotty: you are... intetresting... when did you pick it up?
depends on what they use it for... I think most things that have changed a lot also have some server changes as well... so the 1.0 client wouldn't even work at this time...
the cd index stuff is pretty much frozen since 1.0
icepick: when you have read the thread, you'll notice that it's not a good idea to include the debian/ dir in the released tarballs and even in CVS HEAD
Rotty: just so you know I thought the mb client was abandoned as was going to upload some new packages... glad to see someone else is already doing the work :)
Yeah, I see 1131 from here. Haven't voted much today though.
kyleboon|gone
i can't believe how many TRM ids there are now
phidauex
its pretty crazy
i've submitted several hundred
and i've got about 4000 go to, its just that analyzing and looking them up is a slow process
Go186K
Same here.
phidauex
I've had to add a lot of albums, most of my music isn't in the database yet
but its fun
I think the ability to moderate gives a real sense of community responsibility to the database.. Adding things to freedb always felt like a chore. This is more interesting and fun.
Go186K
Glad to hear that.
djce
Amen to that!
Go186K
Biggest problem I've got is fixing capitalization as upload TRM's.
phidauex
i'm a big fan of 'community'. It doesn't feel like the database belongs to someone else, and I'm giving them free data with nothing in return, it feels like its partly MY database, and that cleaning it up helps keep something I own clean and happy
Yeah, capitalization is a big deal.. there is a LOT of crazy capitalization on there
One thing that annoys me a bit is if I have an album, and I want to have the tagger tag it, and then I notice that the album is messed up, misspelled, poorly capitalized, etc, i have to moderate the album, then wait a few days for it to go through, THEN tag and submit the files
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Or tag and submit them, fix the album, then wait a few days and run it through a second time to get the new tag data
i'm not sure if its the best thing all around, but I hope that a 'trusted moderator' system can be developed, so eventually I'll be able to mod without time delays
Go186K
It's too bad we can't go through the database with script and fix the obvious cap issues.
djce
It might be possible, you never know... if someone can come up with rules to (a) identify the rows in error and (b) automatically derive the correct data instead.
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phidauex
There is already something sort of like that.. if you go to the moderation suggestions page, it has a huge list of anything with obvious capitalization problems
OK. Go read the CVS page on the MB web site, and check out the mb_server project.
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phidauex
ok, will do
perl has enough c-like syntax for me to be able to navigate my way through it usually, but i've never been to the point where I could actually write something
mjflick
Perl :D :D :D
*back*
phidauex
i've got a friend who loves perl
and its definately useful.. i just haven't gotten around to becoming very familiar with it
kyleboon
perl is cool
I want to learn python though
djce
I feel the same about Python :-)
phidauex
there are so many languages out there :P but you know what they say, another language learned another word + comma on your resume. :)
kyleboon
I also want to learn more lisp and haskell.. too many languages, too little time