#musicbrainz

Does this kind of import ever go wrong?: https://musicbrainz.org/release/4698115e-84f3-4...

Asking because this vgm listing isn't even remotely similar: https://vgmdb.net/album/287

and i'm a little confused about it

different catalog number?

also different label

oh that's interesting

my fatigue must be ruining my google fu

could use some help from someone familiar-ish with japanese atm, I have a bunch of tatsuya suzukis who I'm trying to find out if they're all the same artist or not

ahhh thats always annoying

if you search the artists, do they have disambiguations?

some of them do, but there isn't a lot of other information to go off, e.g. minimal relationships and external links with little content

are you only trying to work out if they're overlapping, or do you want to find one for a circumstance

mostly if they're duplicates that should ber merged or not

* should be

https://musicbrainz.org/artist/30fff6c0-7c47-4a... - this is the tatsuya suzuki I've been crediting for stuff (mainly drums) as I go through my album collection

well

thats uh

thats a weird one

so the disambiguation on that says crossfaith

crossfaith is a metalcore band

...nobody in it is named suzuki

tatsuya in the band is tatsuya amano

the drummer

ugh, vgmdb must've gotten that one wrong then (unless it's another alias), I'll go fix that one

so i would question if tatsuya suzuki from crossfaith is a real person

he has nothing linked up to him

yeah that vgm page is definitely not a crossfaith member

this is the album I originally got crossfaith from: https://musicbrainz.org/release/e18e46e1-adcc-4... - vgmdb said this tatsuya was tatsuya suzuki, not amano

oh yeah

vgm just says "Tatsuya"

but that links to thsi guy

they definitely have their wires crossed

but!

i can help confirm one thing

well, I entered edits to correct the credit for metanoia here now

the guy on our site that you thought was crossfaith?

this is thes same guy

because that album is definitely his album

yeah, I already put in a merge edit for that one, though now I'm a little doubtful because I also got that from vgmdb lolrip

well someone definitely did make the gunsmith cats thing

i usually lean on vgm but if they're both up in the air ... you do sort of have to look for source

but gunsmith cats is a bit old

https://musicbrainz.org/artist/087b3b78-de47-46... given this list of relationships

this matches the vgm tatsuya a bit in terms of patterns

with him being drums, composer, and arranger

unless that vgm version is not one guy

30fff6c0-7c47-4a0e-bc69-39763303b014 has some of the other relationships from vgm linked - think we should merge the two?

im trying to work out if the last one i linked actually _is_ the vgm one

by looking at pictures

they're very similar, but i cant quite tell

im gonna guess that, based on the other data the internet is indicating, this vocaloid one is not tatsuya suzuki

i dont mean not the same one

but like

not at all

he's listed as having an alias of deco 17

sorry 27

but that person is not tatsuya suzuki

that person is apparently Deko Niina, unless that's a stage name too

this is turning into a real mess lol

here's another supposed tatsuya suzuki: https://musicbrainz.org/artist/c5ec771f-068b-4e...

oh i see ... tatsuya suzuki did some arranging on the vocaloid laboratory album

deco*27 did the lyrics

so for that one, deco 27 is /not/ an alias of tatsuya suzuki

and if its just arranging, it begs the question ... is it the same as the other composer with that name

id say both aliases are incorrect most likely

https://utaite.fandom.com/wiki/Misc._Albums see this for that album

https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/tatsu_f1 here's a page of interest

added that to c5ec771f-068b-4ed0-a58f-4e15023f3bc3's entry

im gonna guess that august ep guy is not the same one

but thats not with a whole lot of weight behind it

especially since he uses tatsu as an alt

and sure enough

the tatsuya suzuki who has composer as disambiguation?

has a stage name of tatsu

if it helps make things more confusing

there's also the actor

but i dont see any credits for voice work so maybe he's nobody here

I hope so, because I'm already lost lol

here's something that might actually help

tower records tatsuya suzuki

the one that definitely is involved in the gunsmith cats album

so either this one is that one, or that album has a bad reference

naturally vgm is missing some of the albums listed here

now I'm wondering if I got the right tatsuya suzuki or not for all the utena songs I tagged...

hmm

i would try to corroborate those with any of the sites that sell albums

particularly any in japanese

although unlike tower, some dont have cross linking, so that only helps a tiny bit

Misty_Pond : here's a really complete detailing of one of the utena albums https://ohtori.nu/audiology/02_Virtual_Star_Emb...

yeah, I already know about that site, but it doesn't detail the performer credits beyond vocals

the scans

the album scans include composers and arrangers

and lyricists

the scans only have "tatsuya suzuki" printed in english, no kanji or anything else

i dont see tatsuya suzuki in the scans

he's listed as a instrumental credit in the last page: https://ohtori.nu/audiology/albums/02/02_1997/V... 

oh

very interesting

and most of the japanese stores I've looked at just don't list contributing musician credits at all, in general. no-one beyond the standard lyricist/composer/arranger/vocalist at best

yeah

he's definitely not in the staff list

or the cast l ist

so i'd say he was purely drums there

so maybe a set drummer

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/tatsuya-suzuki-... this jives well with that

page doesn't have much else to verify though, they don't appear to store japanese text...

yeah

its a weird thing

how do you k now w hich person who is identically named is which

when these people dont have faces you can rely on because those are just as suspect

think I'll have to put this down for the moment, I'm losing my focus. too many tatsuya suzukis to juggle

fair enough 8b

im actually going to bed

reosarevok: would this be reasonable to use as a biography link? https://www.histclo.com/act/music/pro/ind/b/bur...

I'm trying to kill off some of these Carnegie Hall links but some of the artists are very obscure

atj: looks like a biography yes, although you can just link to https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferruccio_Burco if you don't want that

how did I not find that *facepalm*

I guess the search was excluding foreign language results

I generally search Wikidata first, just in case

often isearch wikidata but thne not find it, but after creatin a wikidata item, i look at commons and find an image wich is linked ot a wiidata item :D