The Bandcamp importer userscript strips it from track titles
2021-03-22 08136, 2021
CatQuest
mix not mux
2021-03-22 08141, 2021
CatQuest sigh
2021-03-22 08154, 2021
Cheezmo_
But why would you think that a CD release would have a track name pulled from Beatport? Not familiar with the label, etc. but if that is a thing, I guess it is meaningless in this cases.
2021-03-22 08105, 2021
Rotab
imo having (original mix) on a dj-mixed track is a bit odd
2021-03-22 08143, 2021
CatQuest
i gues it means they dj-mixed the original mix and not the (more commonly known?) other mixed one or something?
2021-03-22 08146, 2021
atj
Cheezmo_: because James Zabiela created the mix from his music collection and then sent the titles to the label
2021-03-22 08158, 2021
CatQuest
ooohhhh
2021-03-22 08109, 2021
atj
he's been DJ'ing digitally for years AFAIU
2021-03-22 08112, 2021
Rotab
CatQuest: yeah, my brain doesnt like that though
2021-03-22 08132, 2021
atj
CatQuest: I can find no references to any other mixes of that track
2021-03-22 08147, 2021
CatQuest
i guess it's some beatport track thing
2021-03-22 08116, 2021
Cheezmo_
^ well that kind of knowledge would be good for the edit comments, instead of just saying "original mix" should always be removed.
2021-03-22 08124, 2021
atj
Cheezmo_: yes, fair comment
2021-03-22 08133, 2021
CatQuest
I agree there
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CatQuest
funny thing. some 10 years ago we definitely always always removed "(original mix)" fro mtracks. also a lot of other kinds of eti, such as "album version" or "extended version" (depending on were it was)
2021-03-22 08126, 2021
CatQuest
now i tent to move these to disambiguiations
2021-03-22 08148, 2021
CatQuest
they do no harm there and can at best prevent wrong merges
2021-03-22 08112, 2021
CatQuest
speaking of which. this dj-mixed release should have some disambiguiation comments to that effoect
2021-03-22 08133, 2021
CatQuest adds some
2021-03-22 08145, 2021
atj
CatQuest: I was planning to add that after the edit went through
2021-03-22 08152, 2021
CatQuest
oh no. sorry
2021-03-22 08102, 2021
CatQuest removes
2021-03-22 08122, 2021
atj
CatQuest: one of the tracks has been incorrectly linked to a non-djmixed recording
2021-03-22 08128, 2021
atj
which is why I was waiting
2021-03-22 08150, 2021
atj
oh, it's gone through
2021-03-22 08156, 2021
atj
CatQuest: nevermind
2021-03-22 08157, 2021
CatQuest
I usually go on auto-pilot adding these. after some other releases I had edited where it turned otu that dj-mixed recording was merged int oregular ones. it was a real mess
2021-03-22 08101, 2021
CatQuest
exactly!
2021-03-22 08116, 2021
atj
sorry, didn't realise the edit had been applied :)
2021-03-22 08117, 2021
CatQuest
yea i assumed you had already fixed these recordings :D sorry
CatQuest has a script that can batch-add comments to recordings. it's really usefull in these cases
2021-03-22 08125, 2021
atj
Yes, that script is super useful
2021-03-22 08129, 2021
CatQuest
yes!
2021-03-22 08148, 2021
chaban
I think we need a script for batch setting video attribute as well
2021-03-22 08149, 2021
atj
I always wondered how people added all those comments to recordings in dj mixes
2021-03-22 08158, 2021
CatQuest
chaban: i definitly definitly want that
2021-03-22 08122, 2021
CatQuest
i was thinking about if maybe this "set comments2 could be used to create one?
2021-03-22 08149, 2021
CatQuest
i poked reosarevok about it.. hmm I think he suggested asking loujine?
2021-03-22 08154, 2021
chaban
I was thinking about that too but I'm too much of a javascript noob
2021-03-22 08102, 2021
CatQuest has no idea either
2021-03-22 08122, 2021
CatQuest
loujine is the userscript hero. togther with jesus2099
2021-03-22 08124, 2021
atj
I'll have a look, no promises
2021-03-22 08127, 2021
CatQuest
:o
2021-03-22 08138, 2021
CatQuest
we got another userscripthero here \o/
2021-03-22 08143, 2021
CatQuest
no promises :D
2021-03-22 08157, 2021
CatQuest
I still remember how you fixed discogs import script
2021-03-22 08101, 2021
atj
ROpdebee is a JS guru. His image dimensions userscript made me irrationally angry because it was very elegant but I didn't understand it.
2021-03-22 08126, 2021
CatQuest
I need to get you using BookBrainz, then i can get fixes there too
2021-03-22 08128, 2021
CatQuest
ooohhh?
2021-03-22 08100, 2021
atj
He did some really clever stuff where it only loads the images when they appear on your screen
2021-03-22 08124, 2021
atj
Using promises and some APIs I'd never heard of :)
2021-03-22 08125, 2021
CatQuest
hm it probably wouldn't evne work on my old machine/browser :( well
2021-03-22 08149, 2021
atj
Sorry, s/he/they
2021-03-22 08101, 2021
atj
Making bad assumptions therer
2021-03-22 08109, 2021
CatQuest
ack why does toast titanioum hand indefinitly all of a sudden.. anyone know of whre to look for error logs on mac os?
2021-03-22 08137, 2021
ROpdebee
pronouns are correct
2021-03-22 08146, 2021
CatQuest
yea. it too ksome time for me to learn the "they" thing. but i's become usual for me now. I still sometimes slip up (I use "the guy" or "the dude" but)
atj: I possibly would leave it if it's on the cover - I would remove it if every track said (original mix) but I kinda assume they would not print it on one and only one?
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reosarevok
But I didn't read the full convo, so maybe you explained it :D
2021-03-22 08141, 2021
reosarevok
I would certainly drop it from beatport albums
2021-03-22 08112, 2021
atj
reosarevok: my hypothesis is that it actually originated from Beatport as James Zabiela sourced the track from there
2021-03-22 08112, 2021
CatQuest
reosarevok: apparently the person doing the dj-mix just used some beatport mix and sent the names fo the recordings used to theri cd-creator
2021-03-22 08118, 2021
reosarevok
Hmm
2021-03-22 08122, 2021
atj
CatQuest: that's just my hypothesis
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reosarevok
In that case, I'd abstain on that change :)
2021-03-22 08126, 2021
CatQuest
or what atj said
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reosarevok
Seems like it's going to pass anyway, so I don't need to though :D
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CatQuest
the first thing "original mix" made me think of was indeed beatport so i don't think you're that off. maybe we cna ask the person?
2021-03-22 08102, 2021
atj
I honestly don't think the DJ really worried about the track titles, he just sent if off when he finished the mix
2021-03-22 08115, 2021
atj
and they just came from the track metadata
2021-03-22 08118, 2021
CatQuest
maybe we can ask him?
2021-03-22 08131, 2021
CatQuest
wouldn't hurt
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atj
I guess I could try
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CatQuest
👍
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atj
He'll probably think I'm insane asking such an inane question
2021-03-22 08155, 2021
CatQuest
nah, they get asked all kinds of things.
2021-03-22 08106, 2021
CatQuest
you'll never know what artists and the ilk will reply.
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reosarevok sighs
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reosarevok
"Complete Sonatas and Works"
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reosarevok
Is that "Complete Sonatas and Other Works" or "Complete Sonatas and a Bunch of Works"
2021-03-22 08118, 2021
atj
I'd say the former
2021-03-22 08113, 2021
reosarevok
I'd kinda expect so too, but I'm not sure!
2021-03-22 08121, 2021
reosarevok
I mean, as a non-purchaser it's kinda irrelevant
2021-03-22 08128, 2021
reosarevok
But it's weirdly ambiguous
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reosarevok is bothered by weird shit
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atj
reosarevok: as a native english speaker it would be quite weird if it wasn't the former
2021-03-22 08109, 2021
atj
no context though
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reosarevok
I guess it's meant to be "Complete Works for Violin and Piano, Including All the Sonatas"
2021-03-22 08132, 2021
reosarevok
Looking at the contents
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ROpdebee
CatQuest> "nah, they get asked all kinds of things." I once sent an email to a random DJ to ask something about an artist they had one release with, so can confirm
2021-03-22 08136, 2021
atj
Cheezmo_: apologies if I was a bit of an arse during our discussion, I'm a bit tired and irritable today I think
chaban: emailing the artist telling them someone downloaded their music from eDonkey :)
2021-03-22 08147, 2021
chaban
more than a decade ago :D
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Cheezmo_
atj: I could make the same apology ;-) I've been fixing LFE delay on 5.1 mixes all morning and need a break!
2021-03-22 08150, 2021
CatQuest
<3 this community
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atj
I don't think so, you were reasonable throughout IMO :)
2021-03-22 08125, 2021
atj
LFE = Low Frequence Effects ?
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atj
*Frequency
2021-03-22 08101, 2021
Cheezmo_
Yeah. There is a thread on the quadrophonic quad forum about how almost all 5.1 mixes on DVD Audio/SACD have the .1 channel delayed by 4ms and more due to the delay introduced by low pass filters not being compensated for. Sometimes the delay is such that it actually causes the bass to cancel out and be reduced!
2021-03-22 08131, 2021
atj
Interesting. So when the individual tracks are split out, the LPF causes a Nms delay to the signal and this isn't compensated for?
2021-03-22 08155, 2021
atj
Seems odd that an LPF would cause such a big delay
2021-03-22 08112, 2021
CatQuest
I am reminded about how there was this thing that "hi-fidelity" equpment that was "so good" it sent out sounds that were inaudible to the hmna ear (but the infra/ultrasound *did* interference with the audible wavelenghts so there had to be modified stuff)
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Cheezmo
Most engineers (as is recommended) send the LFE channel through a low pass filter (no sense sending high frequencies to a subwoofer). When the tracks are reassembled that should be compensated for if it introduced delay. I think modern software accounts for it but back during the DVD-Audio/SACD age, it was something an engineer would have to account for.
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atj
So the delay was introduced by the LPF when the final mix was made?
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Cheezmo
The LFE is typically derived from the other channels so yeah, when that is being done.
