#musicbrainz

an attribute still feels wrong to me if the url is for someone else's copy of the site

I need a new wallpaper for my phone. Any suggestions?

hibiscuskazeneko: http://www.wallpaperstogo.com/

:U

Uh, that's wallpaper for walls

hibiscuskazeneko: http://www.pixiv.net/ >_>

hibiscuskazeneko: https://twitter.com/noantica/status/54902056421...

Hoo is this?

satsuma the owl

it’s not bad already…

if only there was a purchase or download link for this… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X95HwGKy8mo

hibiscuskazeneko: your ticket about cdjapan… well, why not neowing.co.jp then (their main site) ? and well, i don’t think it’s very good to add all the online shops… why not joshin, etc. ;)

and they probably remove their items when sold out… linking online shops, i don’t really know what it is useful for…

they don't remove the listing, but they do list it as no longer available

i’ve not used them much… they don’t list correct label usually, do they ? what good would they be linked for ?

online shops are not the most accurate info providers in my humble experience…

The relationship type says it all (they sell the actual release)

I've discovered artists via MB

and consequently sought to purchase their music

but there are tons of online shops…

linking them is just some free advertising…

i mean it’s very easy for anyone to find them without us linking already…… linking amazon is an exception for historical reasons

I tend to link to ones I've used in the past

I wouldn't link to a shop I knew to be unreliable or a scam

linking anything is free advertising

but when a release is in retail stores, in all online shops etc. i thought it was not the spirit of MB to link one of them… i don’t really get the purpose but i’m not against, if it’s needed :)

also does amazon not pay mbz anymore?

personally I think you should add as many store links as you want

Well, they pay everyone for the referral (tiny amounts of money though, in the grand scale of things)

if someone feels that their competitor is being unfairly linked then they can add their own store too lol

linking shops is most useful for exclusive source (like fanclud only releases, etc.)

wtf is this lol

and cdjapan is just containgin latin transliterations IIRC… neowing would be very slightly better for tracklists at least (but not perfect either imo)

I don't know if the Neo-Wing frontend sells outside of Japan

flamingspinach: That's a remix of this guy https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Ghost

you can serach the catalogue number of a release in duckduckgo and you’ll find ways to mail order the album (cdjapan or anything else)… the catalogue number is enough to store in MB, i mean why linking one of the sites… but you got my point already ;)

i have to go :) (^_^;)/

i c

bye jesus2099

we know you will be lurking watching the logs even once you're "gone" though :P

not sure, flamingspinach :) i try to forget about IRC, forums, etc… now

aw...

there are reasons for this… anyway, bye bye ;)

hibiscuskazeneko, did you say Neowing? https://musicbrainz.org/artist/3379a7da-e194-44...

It's also a Japanese shipping company

I'm still amazed at how this song can be a 4-track midi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aUpS67-OAE

What's that originally from?

it's an original composition

from 1993?

yup

the composer is still around but it seems he's not working in the MIDI medium these days https://www.youtube.com/user/anomaria512

It sounds like something off a YMO album

it's more casiopea imo

This Casiopea? https://musicbrainz.org/artist/b2853652-db74-44...

yep

probably the most influential j-fusion band

damn, now I have another artist to trawl for

if you want to get one of their albums, probably get this one https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/dab9fb8a-...

(well, just my personal favorite lol)

hmm, I guess the songs on that aren't that similar to the youtube video I linked though...

for something closer maybe try their album "dramatic" (which seems not to be on mbz for some reason)

oh hey, that came out in 1993 too lol

no wonder it's closer to a song from 1993

yeah that's one of their more famous songs

OK, so it looks like they released some of their stuff in the US http://www.discogs.com/Casiopea-Zoom/release/19...

wouldn't be surprised

welp, I need a shower and have to be in Arlington at 11:00

so I have to go now

cul8r

see ya :)

question, if a release mostly has english track names, and one single track in another language, should we be rigorous and switch to [multiple languages] for the release ?

for "made in Canada" on medium, should I use "manufactured in" relationship ? Or is there a more precise relationship that I don't know of ?

No.

It should be whatever the majority of the tracks are.

thanks hawke

another question, when the band name is non-english, but likely is often written with caps for each word most of the time, should we still apply the specific language style ?

I don't see why you wouldn't

dunno, I hesitate with band names in 2 words mostly, because it then feels unbalanced ehe

and eventually because of artist intent, guessing they would use caps themselves

It's kinda weird actually

In theory, I guess you should

Almost no band in Spain would lowercase their name though

(as an example of country with no-all-caps style)

ah, that makes sense/actually doesn't

yeah, my other guess was band names are considered a bit differently than track names

haha

Yeah - there's no language-specific band name guidelines at all, IIRC, so I guess whether the standard title ones apply or not is tricky, but in any case, nobody could probably claim it's very wrong to change to follow them

okay, i'll try to get a bit more consistant with the style then, thanks ;)

WHOURKR imo should be spelling in all caps...

they don't ever say "Whourkr" or etc

Well, artist intent is still there :)