Not sure what's the best way of doing it. It feels like having a general rel for "this is official info about this event" might be useful?
2019-05-27 14727, 2019
yvanzo
Isn’t that official homepage?
2019-05-27 14719, 2019
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reosarevok
Well, generally "official homepage" means "it's a website for this event", not "it's an entry on a website for this event"
2019-05-27 14739, 2019
CatQuest
+1 to having a general "entry on websites for this event" type rel
2019-05-27 14724, 2019
CatQuest
wiith *possibly* custom ones for big "event" sites.. or are we going away with custom?
2019-05-27 14756, 2019
CatQuest still finds it annoying that we have custom discog rels but not rym ones
2019-05-27 14726, 2019
CatQuest
either all sites (with some size) should get teir designated rel or none
2019-05-27 14739, 2019
CatQuest
should
2019-05-27 14715, 2019
CatQuest
possibly a whitelist for eventsites? but i'd advise against that personally
2019-05-27 14711, 2019
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yvanzo
reosarevok: I did not find more official webpage for this event.
2019-05-27 14741, 2019
reosarevok
Sure, most won't have one, same as most release groups don't :)
2019-05-27 14751, 2019
yvanzo
Isn’t BBC coorganizing Proms or smt?
2019-05-27 14727, 2019
reosarevok
Sure. The point is not that this is not official. It's that it's not a website for the event
2019-05-27 14733, 2019
reosarevok
Is just one entry in a huge website
2019-05-27 14704, 2019
yvanzo
Do they list events they are not part of?
2019-05-27 14734, 2019
yvanzo
I can see the potential interest of having Other DBs for events too but the given example doesn’t seem to fit in.
2019-05-27 14718, 2019
yvanzo
Most event DBs are ticketing websites, that might be why we don’t have Other DBs for events.
2019-05-27 14737, 2019
reosarevok
No, they list their own events. Same as an artist's own page listing one of their events should be linked, but it's not an official website for the event
2019-05-27 14749, 2019
reosarevok
It's just a part of the official website for the artist :)
2019-05-27 14722, 2019
yvanzo
Ok, it doesn’t make a difference to me whether it is an official page of the official website of the artist/label or if it is a separate website.
2019-05-27 14745, 2019
reosarevok
Well, you can't call a random subpage of something a "website"
2019-05-27 14752, 2019
reosarevok
That's just a subpage, not a website
2019-05-27 14702, 2019
yvanzo
The relationship is named “official homepage” ;)
2019-05-27 14734, 2019
reosarevok
.... but that's not a homepage for the event!
2019-05-27 14739, 2019
reosarevok
It's not a homepage at all!
2019-05-27 14751, 2019
reosarevok
It's a random subpage in a huge-ass database!
2019-05-27 14726, 2019
reosarevok
It's like calling a MusicBrainz page for an artist "a homepage". It doesn't make any sense to me
2019-05-27 14757, 2019
reosarevok
If I clicked that link I'd expect to see the event's own site, not just a short entry about it
2019-05-27 14705, 2019
Lotheric
it's a 'page' (as in webpage) not a site (as in website), it's the home of that artist on musicbrainz
Well, whatever, I'll just keep on not adding the links for now
2019-05-27 14758, 2019
reosarevok
IMO that link is wrong, and unless there's a musicbrainzsoundteam.org or something we shouldn't have an official homepage link there at all
2019-05-27 14706, 2019
reosarevok
But I don't feel like wasting time on this either
2019-05-27 14708, 2019
Lotheric didn't read the whole thing... You guys were arguing about the musicbrainzsoundteam homepage ? lol
2019-05-27 14717, 2019
reosarevok
No, about events
2019-05-27 14718, 2019
yvanzo
reosarevok: it makes semantically no difference to me whether it is a separate official homepage or a subpage of main artist/label/place official website, it is still official, maybe the current relationship type description should be extended to allow this.
2019-05-27 14722, 2019
Lotheric
ah
2019-05-27 14726, 2019
reosarevok
But that kind of usage is why we had to rename the RG one to standalone website
2019-05-27 14726, 2019
Lotheric
still funny though
2019-05-27 14727, 2019
Lotheric
:)
2019-05-27 14741, 2019
reosarevok
Because people were linking to discography entries in the artist's website, which is just wrong
2019-05-27 14752, 2019
CatQuest agrees with reosarevok
2019-05-27 14757, 2019
CatQuest
strongly
2019-05-27 14759, 2019
Freso
reosarevok: There are many times where I would have liked to link some page to an entity but there wasn’t really a good relationship to use for it. E.g., a Release/Release Group to a (sub)page an an artist’s or label’s website. Or some artists will have a page for each of the constellations they play in, but the constellations themselves do not have their own official websites.
2019-05-27 14721, 2019
Freso
I think it’d be great if we got a way to link these, without making it BBC specific.
2019-05-27 14752, 2019
reosarevok
Agreed (and for some cases where they get used a lot we could even have autoselect etc) but we'd need a good name for the stuff
2019-05-27 14754, 2019
Freso
I just essentially copied my above comment to the ticket. :p
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ajshell1
Is there a way for me to add a bunch of ISRC codes at once?
2019-05-27 14751, 2019
reosarevok
ajshell1: not at the moment, but that should change in a couple weeks
2019-05-27 14716, 2019
reosarevok
The old mechanism broke when we removed the old deprecated web service and the new one requires a couple changes
2019-05-27 14721, 2019
reosarevok
Or wait. bitmap: is the CORS stuff in beta?
2019-05-27 14742, 2019
ajshell1
Thanks. If my usage of the grep tool is correct, I have 178 cue sheets with ISRCs in them. So I'll wait for when it's better
Yeah, I'll put the tool up at https://magicisrc.kepstin.ca/ once it's usable on the real db. (the old link will be a redirect to that, it'll still work)
2019-05-27 14734, 2019
kepstin
Please try out the ui on the beta version and share any feedback you have.
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ajshell1
How do I handle female artists who have gotten married partway through their career and changed their last name?
2019-05-27 14718, 2019
CatQuest
complain about the patriarky
2019-05-27 14725, 2019
CatQuest
ok no, change the name
2019-05-27 14729, 2019
ajshell1
I'd like some more practical advice
2019-05-27 14731, 2019
CatQuest
and use artist credits
2019-05-27 14738, 2019
CatQuest
change the name using "edit artist" and do not select "change artist credits"
2019-05-27 14720, 2019
CatQuest
use artist credits , using the name on the release/thing they release
2019-05-27 14750, 2019
CatQuest
often, especially if established, an artist will still use the old name on releases
2019-05-27 14704, 2019
ajshell1
This artist is the opposite of established
2019-05-27 14713, 2019
ajshell1
She's a singer in a college town bar band
2019-05-27 14732, 2019
CatQuest
if they are known "professionally" ie "artist name" is the old name, then don't rename but add an "legal name" alias
2019-05-27 14757, 2019
CatQuest
ok, in this case probably the name shoudl be changed
2019-05-27 14717, 2019
CatQuest
you cna add an alias with the old name and the new name and use dates on thme to show whne the change happened
2019-05-27 14729, 2019
CatQuest
(in addition)
2019-05-27 14735, 2019
ajshell1
So I should create the artist page with the maiden name, than add an alias for the new name?
2019-05-27 14745, 2019
CatQuest
what? no
2019-05-27 14751, 2019
CatQuest
rename the original artist
2019-05-27 14700, 2019
ajshell1
And then use the maiden name as the alias?
2019-05-27 14721, 2019
ajshell1
And should I check "This is the primary alias for this locale" at any point?
2019-05-27 14723, 2019
CatQuest
you can add the old name as an alias (can and should) as "legal name" and use dates (from birth to marriage day) and a second alias with the new name (also as "legal") which has a start date on the marriage day
2019-05-27 14730, 2019
CatQuest
nah
2019-05-27 14735, 2019
CatQuest
shouldn't really have a locale
2019-05-27 14755, 2019
CatQuest
(unless she was not married in a differnt place :D)
2019-05-27 14737, 2019
CatQuest
now, for anything that was released prior to the name change, that should have artist credits with the old name. that is done on the release an recordings so if those aren't added yet no need to worry about that yet
2019-05-27 14738, 2019
ajshell1
Also, based on the fact that "Sort Name" is a thing, I've finally come to the conclusion that the Japanese and the Hungarians were right all along
2019-05-27 14702, 2019
CatQuest
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just press "guess" it should 9 out of 10 do it right
2019-05-27 14724, 2019
CatQuest
oh also for japanese the sortname should be in latin (romaji)
How a Taiwanese bootleg ended up in an American thrift store still baffles me
2019-05-27 14732, 2019
CatQuest
why not? I'm sure lots of taiwanese triftstores have american crap in them :DD
2019-05-27 14753, 2019
CatQuest
kepstin: hmm ifi paste a "beta" link in that (which admittedly goes to test) it won't do anything. might want to let it ignore the *.musicbrainz.org part
2019-05-27 14730, 2019
CatQuest
kepstin: also I like the website and it works, but it would also be great if there was a "paste everything here" block the same as on jesus' isrc submitting thing https://magicisrc-beta.kepstin.ca/?%3F%3Fmbid=636…
2019-05-27 14743, 2019
CatQuest
(or did he create a script for nikki's old site? i forget now :D)
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CatQuest
fonts are a tiny bit large (had to zoom out twice to see it comfortable :D)
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CatQuest
welp. I put in some bogus isrcs to test and it just redirected to the first page with "https://magicisrc-beta.kepstin.ca/?[object+FormData]=" as url
