dominikh: heh. something like new editing schema would be that i suppose. but no, you have to do it again. sadly
dominikh
well thank god it was a trivial change, this time
(not one that should conflict with any of the changes made, but hey :P)
CatCat
in the future we may well actually try to implement something liek that (if it's what i think it is wich is to say i don't eally know how to rebase soemthing :D)
but yea. it's tivial changes a good idea. it's bad if, sat a whole several disc editing fails or the work is lost due to somethngi with the browser or what not
dominikh
well, in version control system terms, an edit would be a list of changes, based on/referenced to an existing version. rebasing would be taking these changes and applying them on top of a different version instead
CatCat
I don't acually think any conflicting edits will fail something huge liek that but
ohhh. yes! re-base as in making a new "base" i get it :D
dominikh
I was very surprised that adding a data track failed because track times of existing tracks changed.
CatCat
hmm
yea that makes sense (to me) unfortiunatly
since setting that is probably conflicting with the edit to "set times"
dominikh
does that mean the atomic unit here is the entire track list, not individual tracks? what'd happen if two edits changed track length and track names respectively?
CatCat
but yea. idk, maybe make a ticket for that. it should prevent people editing (or give a warning atleast) if there is an open edit times edit whiel trying ot set datatrack
MBS-3016: MB should warn of the potential for "The tracklist has changed since this edit was created" failed depedency at edit submit time
CatCat
huh. when editing the tracktimes it would have to be editing the data track too i susspected? somehow. i don't know, i'd need ot see the affected edits really
mhm. yes set datatracks by disc id would affect the "data" tracktoo
oh my, yes, sicne that is medium-wide i think and you're adding another datatrack
*to* the medium
anyway if you have another issue liek this you can ask and i'll apprve the edit that may conflict with the net editso oy udon't have ot wait a week to do that medium edit
dominikh nods
dominikh
I'll try not to conflict with myself next time :P
CatCat
hahaha
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i may not know coding and such, but the mb.editing system and editing in general I've got experience with. for 14 odd years now
anyway all I know about code is gained through osmosis reading the stuff the write her or in #metabrainz since those early times :D
so i did pick up a little bit :D
dominikh
14 years, wow
CatCat
just never.. actually learned to. been meaning to learn python for ages but. so much other stuff to do
yea. i'm an oldbie :D
/oldgeezermode "I remember a time when edit notes didn't mail you, and no-voting waslawless, you could vote through the entire edit-queque of 2000 edits or smth" /oldgeezermode
Member since: 2004-02
dominikh
hehe
CatCat
yes so a while aho :D
a go*
dominikh
I made some tiny edits in 2009, then returned a couple years later and things "somehow felt less bad". I later learned about NGS :P
CatCat
yea NGS fixed a lot of things (and broke a few things I still miss :'()
I also miss rlated and new edits ontop of entities
it's what really spurred me to vote
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we need to re-introduce that somehow. it's what will bring voters back (turned off for newbie accounts, but then turned on once you "graduate" )
dominikh
I don't know what you are referring to
CatCat
I have ideas for improving the editing "usertype status" make it more tier
so now we have beginner usertype which need to do type 10 edits acepted before they can even vote
and tnhe regular users and thne voted in usereditors
i have ideas for making thatm ore granular
and making the editing interface also become more complex the more you need it (eg power-users want different interfaces than newbies or just casual surfers)
dominikh
I see
CatCat
there is a redesign of the website in the works. chhavi is the person, and she also had a gsoc this year related to it
dominikh
is there any information about the redesign out there?
right now she is working on graduating/her work so this is a bit on hold for now. it'll resume in a while i assume
dominikh
thanks!
CatCat
she definitely would want input form you on those and other design tikcets tohugh.
so far there's only been the handfull of us discussing this and having a relatively "new" (yet database/code-y knowledgable) woudl be very valuable for us i think
dominikh
I'm still finding my way around MB, but I'll make sure to give feedback if I have something worth saying
CatCat
thanks!
but ye the "still finding my way around" aspect is kinda important too. sicne we deff want that to be easier. and that's a huge point of this redesign also
dominikh
aah, I'm a grumpy elitist, I don't care for easy :P
CatCat
(that's kinda what i'm getting at here too ;P I want us not to forget that "grumpy elitis database-nerd tpes liek you and me are also a user type we should cater too, ot just 16 year olds with smartphones :D)
dominikh
I think your idea of making the interface more complex as you need it is a good idea. "easy" interfaces tend to make things more difficult for power users
CatCat
(not that 16 yr olds with smartphones can't be the "grumpy elitist"-type)
exactly!
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michelv
catcat what I do not really like is that I have to click an extra screen op to see 'open edits'.
It would be much easier to see those within the actual screen.
Not just colours, but the actual change
And the voting screen itself is a lot of work.
Why not have two columns: From and To so you can see the change much easier.